"sony1492" (sony1492)
02/03/2018 at 17:30 • Filed to: Ramblings
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"sony1492" (sony1492)
02/03/2018 at 17:30 • Filed to: Ramblings | 1
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Will I go to OPPO hell for buying knockoffs? Probably.
ESR SR11, Bolt pattern: 5x114.3, Size: 18x8.5, Offset:+30.
Let’s start with the most vital and important factor. Rpf1's in this spec cost $1,150 shipped, these cost $680. (Assuming both are silver for simplicity.)
Durability: Quite good. I’ve smacked many many potholes and so far the rims have no cracks or significant bends. There may be very minor bends from an incident where I hit a pothole hard enough to blow out my tire and drove another 20-ish miles home.(there’s a little more to that story) But the point is the rim took it like a champ and balanced out fine with a new tire.
Quality: Predictably bad. The face of the rim is well painted, but the back is not. There are sections of the back that have a light or no coat of paint and small bits of dirt were painted over. There are also marks from the manufacturing process on the inside of the barrel(behind the spokes). Little uniform bumps about 6 inches long but barely visible were found on 2 of the 4 rims. The company told me that its normal and if the rims out of round they’ll replace it. So basically what you’d expect from a cheap rim.
Are the rims a safety concern?: In my experiance no, not on the street. They’ve never seen a track so I can’t comment on that.
Why I bought the knock-offs (excuses):My car had been on mismatched rims since August 2016 when the 350z rims were stolen.
A new sr11 is $180, whereas an rpf1 is $300.
Oem rims didn’t come in the size or style I liked for a reasonable price.(gtr 18's are pricy)
And I liked the look of the rpf1s.
Actual sr11's whereas the most of the photos in the thread are rpf1s
Summary: You get what you pay for but they arnt all bad, they wont fall apart if you take a corner or hit a pothole.(the internet may tell you otherwise about replicas) Its not the lightest wheel but being low pressure cast instead of using enkies MAT process thats probably a good thing.
2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 18:02 |
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Honestly the quality benefits, the garenteeded safety and the better look gives me all the reasons to save for actually rpf1's.
When you buy junk you get junk.
All you did was save 400$ and possibly risk your life.
You do you man
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sony1492
> 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered
02/03/2018 at 18:19 |
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If I could do it again I’d buy the Enkies, but I’ve got these now and they work fine. My point was reps arnt unnecessarily fragile its the products fit and finish that suffers most. The product isnt as bad as it is often made out to be. Though the safety aspect depends on the rim design and execution too.
Klaus Schmoll
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 18:20 |
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Enk ei !
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Klaus Schmoll
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 18:21 |
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arnt aren’t
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Klaus Schmoll
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 18:21 |
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wont won’t
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Klaus Schmoll
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 18:26 |
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its it’s
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Klaus Schmoll
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 18:26 |
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experiance experience
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Klaus Schmoll
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 18:29 |
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if the rims out of round if the rim’s out of round
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sony1492
> Klaus Schmoll
02/03/2018 at 18:30 |
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Pffft you think I actually proof read this!?
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sony1492
> Klaus Schmoll
02/03/2018 at 18:33 |
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If it makes you feel better I could send the post back a few months
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Klaus Schmoll
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 19:01 |
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Just a drunk English teacher having a laugh.
TheTurbochargedSquirrel
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 19:04 |
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Why go for a cheap, low quality knock off of an expensive wheel when there are a lot of quality options from reputable brands in your size around the $200 price point?
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sony1492
> TheTurbochargedSquirrel
02/03/2018 at 19:13 |
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Less that $200 at that size?
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TheTurbochargedSquirrel
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 19:19 |
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Lots of options from the likes of Sparco, Motegi, and Enkei at and under the $200 mark.
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2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered
> sony1492
02/03/2018 at 19:26 |
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Too me it seems like a waste of money, when you buy cheap fibreglass body panels they look like shit and crack, when you buy shit wheels they do the same thing, don’t offer quality control and can literally take your life.
Remember if your knockoffs fail that you did it for literally 400$ and medical bills aren’t cheap.
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sony1492
> TheTurbochargedSquirrel
02/03/2018 at 19:41 |
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Those are all the wrong offset though I get the idea. I got that wheel because I liked the design, I already had rims and I wanted something on the car that I liked. As I already went through, the quality may be down but the wheel is still strong.
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sony1492
> 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered
02/03/2018 at 23:58 |
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ESR wheels come with a lifetime structural warranty. The exclusions being offroad use and damages caused by road conditions (potholes).
Furthermore I could not find any evidence of esr rims failing.(on a brief search) The brand is new but 3-4 years is enough time that it would be on the internet somewhere.
And lastly a relevant article. http://www.stanceiseverything.com/2015/04/dont-believe-the-hype-the-wheel-debate-isnt-black-and-white/
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2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered
> sony1492
02/04/2018 at 00:05 |
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Listen I’m never gonna agree it’s ok to buy fake wheels, and I don’t want to be a dick about it
The fact is that you gave 600$ to a company that stole a design and just printed them out with little to no quality control.
If you can handle that good on you
But I just can’t
syaieya
> sony1492
02/04/2018 at 01:24 |
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So maybe im just naive and cheap. But as long as youre not doing high stress applications like track or autocross, knockoffs should be alright.
Them lifting the design may not be on the up and up, but man ive run on some garbage before.
Personally id go used proper rims before new knockoffs but i can see your angle.
But then again, well see what happens when i try to grab a square set of bbs rims for an rx7 id love to own.
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sony1492
> syaieya
02/04/2018 at 12:53 |
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It’s been my experiance that they are fine on the street, it seems as though that’s the consensus. Although they closely resemble a premium design in the case of ESR the rim is different from the original, and appear to have been re-engineered to maintain strength using a lesser manufacturing technique. Finish quality is down but the company did put thought into making the rims, after all, rim failure would not look good for the company.